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Never put anyone else's mind above your own: The Buddha. Paid for advice can cost you more than cash

and he is committed and marriage minded, pretty much everything that I had prayed for. I am being very cautious but I am ecstatic! We have that "crackling chemistry" Kathryn talks about and we just have a great time together.

Sounds great but then this comment appeared below it:

Are you dating or married???? I checked your profile and you posted a review dated December 25, 2012 about a Full body Massage DVD, where you claimed you have been married for 6 months (reposted below). In your post (above) dated December 9, 2012, you claim you just met someone special. Which is it? Something seems very fishy with a lot of these reviews. I am a big Kathryn Alice fan but I think some of these posts are FAKE.

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Full Body Massage - Learn How to Give a Massage - Tips & Techniques

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great DVD for learning at home, December 25, 2012
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My husband and I just got married 6 months ago. So we are newly weds. Lol Anyways my husband bought this DVD as a Christmas gift. I guess he wants me to try to massage him. Excited to try this out and see how it goes. =) I hope I can satisfied my husband.

In another Amazon review on Alice's other Kindle book “Manifest Your Soulmate: Call Forth the Love of Your Life with a Proven Process” dated July 5, 2010, one listener wrote:

It might be a 'real' connection, as she states, but it is not 'real' fast, as she also states... The meditation ends with a statement to the effect of, 'Most people find that after listening to this, they meet their soulmate in a matter of days or weeks', and the cover has a quote from someone who met her boyfriend the NEXT DAY. I've had this CD for over a month, now, (as well as the book and her Releasing CD), listened to the full meditation several times... and while I'm still hopeful, I've not met a single person. So, I have to second Frangelica from CA -- recommended, but be advised that Kathryn's emphasis on how FAST you'll meet someone is only countered by her insistence on 'divine timing'. There IS someone out there for you... but don't take anyone's word on WHEN they'll show up.

A comment in response to this review dated December 20, 2012 had this to day:

I've had to remind myself to take Kathryn's examples with a grain of salt. It's wonderful to hear how fast manifestation can happen for some people but just because I haven't yet manifested that relationship does not mean I'm not taking the right steps or that I'm doing something wrong. Some things take more time for a reason. It can be painful to wait so long but I'm convinced now (6 *years* after first starting this work with her in a workshop) that just because 1000 other people had a particular type of experience (fast manifestation) doesn't mean my experience isn't just as valid, even if it's completely the opposite experience. This realization makes patience so much easier and enjoyable!

If anything, my biggest block was getting caught up in comparing myself and my experience to others instead of respecting myself and my experience as is, honoring it for exactly what it is and how it unfolds.

Maybe these two reviewers are also candidates to be called lazy by Alice and told that it’s their fault for still being single. Again, what is it? Divine timing or lazy for not meeting your soulmate just days after listening to this CD or are these people outliers? If so, PROVE IT. Doesn't the title of Alice's book not say PROVEN PROCESS? If anyone is going to use words like this then it's understandable they may one day be called on to really actually prove it. Or better yet … refund all the lazy people. Where is Judge Judy??? Oh wait ... she would probably call anyone who was left empty handed after buying into work like this an example of - a fool and their money are soon parted but I don't think she'd let the guru off the hook either. What are the rules on false advertising again from the FTC?

According to the FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection Division of Advertising Practices:

The Division of Advertising Practices protects consumers from unfair or deceptive advertising and marketing practices that raise health and safety concerns, as well as those that cause economic injury. It brings law enforcement actions in federal district court to stop fraudulent advertising practices, coordinates FTC actions with federal and international law enforcement agencies sharing authority over health and safety products and services, and monitors advertising and marketing of alcohol, tobacco, violent entertainment media, and food to children. The Division also brings administrative lawsuits to stop unfair and deceptive advertising.

The legal publisher Nolo posted this statement online in regards to avoiding unlawful advertising:

Be truthful about what consumers can expect from your product. Don't say ABC pills will cure headaches if the pills offer only temporary pain relief. Don't claim a rug shampooer is a wizard at removing all kinds of stains when in fact there are some it won't budge

For those who have done Alice's work or any other love guru's program beyond their books and are still "on the market", other material such as The Emotion Code, which discusses how to remove a "Heart Wall" and Let Love In: Open Your Heart and Mind to Attract Your Ideal Partner or Feeling Beautiful Hypnosis by Debi Berndt may be helpful additions to the notion of removing inner blocks to forming a relationshp. An older book called Finding Each Other also touches upon inner clearing of old psychological wounds as key steps to a healthy partnership with someone new that reflects a healthy pattern of interacting. There is also Mindful Loving and Dancing with the Beloved which are filled with exercises that are meant to change thought patterns into ones that support loving relationships both romantic and platonic.

For deeper clues as to why love may be elusive and how you are causing it to be so, check out Inner Bonding by Dr. Margaret Paul. For those who simply needs tactics, something that Alice's books and seminars are not as focused on, Dr. Diana Kirschner of Find True Love in 90 Days is the book for you. Matthew Hussey, the real life Hitch (as in the movie starring Will Smith), seems to be able to help women generate real results with numbers that back up his claims. His new book talks all about success in offline dating: Get the Guy: Learn Secrets of the Male Mind to Find the Man You Want and the Love You Deserve. One thing that stands out about Matthew Hussey and Debi Berndt is that they offer a money back guarantee so the risk is not so great as far as your cash is concerned at least.

Finally, Kathryn Alice "trains and certifies love coaches" who offer "one-on-one coaching" to those who are keen on her work and ready to meet their soulmate. Just like what I observed in her teleseminar what I have gathered so far about her coaches is that they appear to all speak the same mantra. When someone asks what else they can do to remove obstacles to love their response is all the same: You get love because you want love. Depending on your viewpoint, this is either an empowering statement or a repetitive one. Many people have desired love but many still are not partnered so perhaps Alice and her coaches' answer to that is: If you are not with your soulmate during your life you will meet at the Pearly Gates and be together then. That is, if you believe there is such a thing as a soul that lives on when the body dies. I'm willing to bet that that all single people would want their soulmate here and now on Earth while they are living. I guess those who are lazy can't complain because none of their efforts count since they are not doing the real inner work according to Alice.

My point is ... not sure I want to take the entire range of advice from anyone and put their thoughts above my own 100% and 100% of the time because life is full of surprises and what works for one person may have no effect on another. Just like medicine. Some bacteria are resistant to powerful antibiotics and not others. It's about finding what works for you. Alice has talked about women getting pregnant with their own eggs at 57 and giving birth to healthy kids. It happens but it's not the standard. Don't gamble with your life by listening to everyone's advice.In this regards, Alice could be seen as promoting "the price of hope" that was written about in Fabulous Magazine.

So what is the price of hope: for some it is a feeling of failure as others in the dating program find someone easily compared to them and are told it's their fault they're still single. Or its the tears and sadness that one person can be reduced to after being told by Alice that they were lazy. Even though the statement was not personal to them (at least that is what Alice said when she learned about the impact of her words. Something that Religious Science Practitioners are trained in - the power of words), how else are they supposed to interpret Alice when she responded directly to their question in writing with "People who don't manifest are lazy. They are substituting external work for the deep inner work needed to resolve their resistance to love."

On a final note, Alice's office sent this reply in response to an Amazon review about the "lazy" comment: I hope you are doing super well. We saw your review on Amazon recommending other things besides Kathryn's work, and we want you to know that when Kathryn says you are lazy, she means not just you but many who are not stopping to do the work and just act too soon. She is making a point. We hope you have not taken offense or her work has not negatively affected you.

Maybe the poet Rainer Maria Rilke had a better approach, one that he never charged for, which was, "Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart. And try to love the questions themselves."