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12 Relationship Red Flags

Is he the one? Dating deal breakers you shouldn't ignore.

Not long ago, I met a very attractive single mother of two at a dinner party in Sag Harbor, New York. We were seated next to each other—a "soft" setup—and by dessert, we were punctuating our stories with little touches: her hand on my forearm, mine on hers. Good signs. Read: Blind Dates For Beginners

Then the first of her two children, a boy of about ten, descended from an upstairs TV room. In each hand he clutched an action figure. This in itself was not disconcerting. It was the way he slammed the action figures into each other, his upper lip curled in a sneer, that gave me pause—that, and the adoring look his mother chose to bestow on him as he did.

Still, D—, the boy's mother, was definitely worth a follow-up. A few days later, I drove over to the waterfront inn where she had encamped with her children for a brief summer vacation. The plan was a swim in the inn's pool, then lunch at a nearby restaurant: a little ersatz family outing. D— ushered me into her room and announced the obvious fact of my arrival to her children. Read: Babies in the Theater, on Date Night?

Neither the boy nor his sister, two years older, looked over from the droning television. Not a word emanated from either one's lips. D— told them to turn off the television and change into their swimsuits. They ignored her. So D— pretended she hadn't asked them, and went into the bedroom to change. Only when the grownups started to leave did the children drag themselves, sluglike, behind us.

The swim was bad enough, with both children glowering at the grownups from their pool chairs. But lunch was worse. No sooner had the waiter taken our order than the girl seized one of the action figures from her brother's fist and threw it across the restaurant. The boy screamed in outrage, hit his sister with the other action figure, then ran over to get the first one so he could hit her with that, too. As the sister returned fire with her fists, I turned to see what D— would do. "Now, come on, children," she said gently, lovingly, pleadingly. "Now, come on ... ."

Ten years (and one marriage) ago, I would have excused all this somehow, put it aside, and pressed on with a next date, because the mother, after all, was hot. No more. Well, all right, to be perfectly honest, I did ask her out on one more date, hoping her demon children would be more agreeable in their city home. They weren't. So that was that. After decades of ignoring red flags, only to sail into disaster each time, I've finally realized that no matter how gorgeous and alluring the new stranger is, you have to quit when a red flag goes up. As soon as it goes up.

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Doom_Doll Starting Over
Posted 2 weeks ago

"Or perhaps you think I'm making a class judgment here. Well, maybe I am! What's wrong with that?"

Really? You don't know what's wrong with that? Or are you so comfortable judging others that you aren't even embarrassed to say things like that?

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charmaine Single merry
Posted 3 weeks ago

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bagles Starting Over learning to fly
Can Relate - Posted 3 weeks ago

Nothing like those good old red flags. I had several waving at me before I got married, but I was so blinded I didn't pay enough attention to them. Now, even though I know better, my red flag radar isn't as sharp as I thought. Newly single, fell fast and hard for a guy, justified some of those flags thinking they aren't that big and don't matter that much. A learning process I guess. A lot to be said for taking it reeeaaalll slow!!

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boredwell a gregarious introvert
Can Relate - Posted 3 weeks ago

PHEW! Can I relate. I would, if you permit, to add another two-in-one more red flag to your list: the "ist-er" and/or " disser." I was dating what I would call a bright, seemingly, on the surface as it turns out, convivial individual with a wicked sense of humor often described as mordant. She had refused to meet me at my place because, she said, the neighborhood was multi-lateral (cultural?). When I had pressed her to explain, she added humorously, "Oh, it's like going on an adventure to places where the noises, smells and sights are just, well, too much for me. They overwhelm, gives me indigestion, too. I'm not much of a traveler, you know. " I ignored that warning sign. Weeks later, while dining al fresco, an elderly woman dressed in colorful South American skirts and shawls topped with a black bowler hat, approached our table. She was selling bouquets of flowers. I paid for a twist of spectacular orange roses, thanked the woman in Spanish and smiled. When I handed the flowers to my date she frowned, shook her head and held up both hands, palms out like a school crossing guard stopping traffic. "No," no," she said, "you have no idea where those have been. Besides the old thing probably has some disease. Gross! Probably an illegal, too." I was more shocked than deflated. She voluntarily revealed herself to be a "closet" race-ist, age-ist, yes, even sex-ist conform-ist. "There you have it, "she said. "I'm Jewish," I told her getting up. Before I took leave, I said, "And there you have it."

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ProudArmyMom Taken
Can Relate - Posted October 23, 2009

In response to the parenting issues. I am and have been a single mom for 18 years. My children now are upstanding young men in the Army, but for many years were a nightmare. It didnt matter the advice I got or the parenting classes taken. My issue stemmed from certain relatives not believing in ANY form of discipline. That and the fact alot of things have been stripped from parents these days. If we were out of line in public OR at home my parents had the wooden spoon or a belt and we KNEW it. These days anything is an empty threat and kids know from a very young age that if anything is done they will call 911.

Anyway..........

As far as relationships go. It took MANY years of red flags and bad dates to FINALLY find the love of my life. I am still waiting for that "bomb" to fall and have kind of become a bit shy of going beyond a certain point in a relationship for fear of things going bad. After 2 years he has been asking me constantly to move in with him and I have been hesitant. I finally realized that he is still here after 2 years and we are awesome together, needless to say........I have given in. Good luck to all those still looking............I KNOW ITS NOT EASY, but there is someone out there. Took me 16 years to find my prince and I am so very glad I did!

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LessonsLearned Single looking4 Mr. Right 4me
Can Relate - Posted October 19, 2009

I spent over 2 years in a relationship with a guy who met about 10 of these. I kept thinking that I could deal with them, but over time, I realized that he wasn't worthy of me. I had little dating experience and thought that I could never do better than him. We lived together for over a year after the breakup after a stupid lease agreement we couldn't get out of and I am finally in my own house that I bought. He met the love of his life and shared a lot of personal info that if I was the new love of his life's spot, would dump him in a moment for sharing with an ex. He also tried to blame me for a lot of his problems when the new girlfriend broke up with him about 5 or 6 times. I wanted him to find someone as idiotic as he was, but it still bugged me because I realized I was a great catch and some guy would be happy to have me. I discovered that I am worthy of being loved for me and not because he feels that he will never have a home. I wanted a partner and ended up with a kid that would be more work that one I would give birth to. There is a great lifetime movie from the last year and a half of my life and would be happy to share the stories personally if anyone is interested. It definitely would make your life seem much better! :) I am just glad I came to my senses before we got married and got that self esteem that seemed to have alluded me.

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Jacqueline87 Single
Can Relate - Posted October 15, 2009

I have noticed that some single parents get really angry when a childless person comments on their parenting skills or parenting in general. That seems like somewhat of a cop-out. Let me explain. You don't need to have kids in order to recognize certain things about many of today's kids. Many of them are wild and completely undisciplined. They do whatever they want in public. For example, I have seen kids jump all over the mattresses in a bedding store. They were climbing all over everything like monkies! They were jumping from bed to bed. If one of them had fallen and had been seriously injured, the parents would not have hesitated to sue I am sure. I have seen and heard kids talk back to their parents in the most rude and obnoxious ways. I have seen kids hit their parents in public. They have fits in the stores and it seems like this is happening more and more. They pick and choose what they do and don't want to do and they fuss about what foods they will eat. Some kids have a food list of like three items...and they will only eat those three items. Children are by nature foolish and it is the parent(s) responsibility to train it out of them....to teach, to set examples, to set high standards out of love. Of course what goes on in a child's head is silliness and nonsense and they perceive things differently! Parents are supposed to teach and train because that is what children need. These days discipline is a dirty word. When we were growing up, we would never have dreamed of acting the way these kids do. I would have been in big trouble. Parents did not put up with it and I think that sometimes, a good smack in the butt is warranted. I see kids with no standards, no structure, no sense of limits or limitations, no boundaries, and they are usually miserable. I am not a parent and I am sure that it is hard as hell but I do feel like what I have written here is valid nonetheless. I work with a single mother and she has never allowed her children to act up. They were taught to treat adults with respect and they would never dream of being disrespectful to one of her friends or dates.
I might mention that she is a no-nonsense, bright, and strong woman of Jamaican heritage. She has never allowed any silliness or nonsense. Now her kids are high honors students in high school and they love and respect their mother.

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c3ri53 Taken
Can Relate - Posted October 18, 2009

i know what you mean about parents getting offensive about their parenting skills. i gave my opinion once in a while and not really thinking it was a big deal and i got the "wait till you have your own kids" bit. i was raise by a single mom and she didnt tolerate any misbehavior specially in public and when i saw it with people that i knew and tried to help out i got a negative look and i was not invited to join them for a while. its sad but not doing it again.

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Jacqueline87 Single
Can Relate - Posted October 15, 2009

Hello everyone,
I think people have to be really cautious. It's easy to get caught up and to romanticize the situation instead of being realistic. I learned the hard way. I got involved with a divorced man with two kids and a crazy, nasty ex-wife. I should have been running and fast. The kids were total brats and that was based on Mom's lack of parenting. What can a Dad do to correct such a mess only two days a week? They need consistency. Well, it was a nightmare. I stayed for like three years when I should not have. His ex watched our every move, she tried to steal money from us even when she had plenty, she harassed him constantly by filing bogus or phony motions and dragging him into court for no reason. Each time the case would be thrown out or the judge would declare the motion was false or nonsense to begin with. She got away with it. She remarried some older guy with money and was living very well while we were struggling and she continued to harass us. She made threats, she bribed or practiced extortion in my opinion. It was bad.
I think women (and men) should contemplate the seriousness of these scenarios very carefully. If the person you are with has financial obligations to an ex or children from a previous relationship, consider this: Your partner has to attempt to build a new life while paying into another household every week or bi-weekly or whatever! Yes, people have that obligation to their children and that is reality but anyone who comes along should think twice. This may seem mean or selfish but really it is not. His or her obligations and responsibilities wind up being split between two households or families. On the one hand, he or she may be trying to build a life with you. On the other hand, he or she has to pay into another household budget or income....because they are no longer a family....the family is split and has two separate residences. That is part of what makes it so difficult and unnatural in a way.
It is a lot to take on. His ex would pull all kinds of stunts for more money while showing up for court with jewelery catalogs to browse through while waiting....meanwhile coming up with fake daycare receipts and fake medical bills. I feel sorry for a lot of men like my ex. Yes, I eventually broke away from the relationship because I could not take it anymore and it took a lot out of me. Since then, I have been able to check public records of their court proceedings and she has never stopped. Keep in mind that he is a decent guy who does pay his child support on time. There are other women out there like her and I think that people should be careful...very careful.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted October 26, 2009

Even if the ex is completely reasonable, if the guy is supporting his first family, he's not going to be able to afford to support another one.

When a couple stops living together, the cost of supporting the family goes up. If the family needed two incomes to live on, they no longer have enough money.

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Sunflower9311 Single
Posted October 23, 2009

I agree w/ you, it's not stupid or foolish or selfish to decide to not date someone because they have a financial obligation to their ex or because the kids are ill behaved and not controlled or the ex is a complete nut job. The main reason is because if you decide to remain in a relationship w/ this person, you will have all of his/her obligations and baggage impacting your life together and if you aren't willing to sacrifice some of your wants for the needs of someone elses kids, then don't get involved.

I get so frustrated w/ young women who think the ex or kids are just going to go away once he marries her and they have their own kids. No, your catch 22 is that how he treats the kids from his first marriage is most likely how he'll treat your kids together if you don't stay together. So if he's a good guy who's taking his responsibilities seriously then he's going to stay in contact w/ the ex and kids. If you don't want a man you have to share in this way then he's not the man for you.

I have rejected men who allowed their kids to run wild---if the kids don't respect him, I know they are never going to respect me. and I've rejected men w/ psycho exes (I'm talking smash your car windows, send you death threats, break into your house and cause your grandmother to have a heartattack crazy.) I figure either the guy had/has seriously poor judgement where women are concerned or encourages the behavior in some way and seriously, who wants to have that kind nut job as a permanent part of your life--because when kids are involved, exes never go away. yes the kids grow up but then they marry and have children and you're all grandparents together.

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Can Relate - Posted October 6, 2009

i once went for a coffee date with a guy who once told me 'not to pick anything expensive'...we were in starbucks! The evening was horrendous *at one stage he started body popping*. I ended the (un) eventful eveing telling him I had go home and watch TV programme.

The next day I left him a message saying not to call me again...to which he rang back asking why?

I rang my friend and we had a good laugh about it.

If you end up going out for a date with a cheap person...make your excuses and leave immediately.

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pmat49 Married
Posted September 20, 2009

every situation is different>> all children act out depending on how soon the divorce or separation was and he should of asked that before diving into a first date>> ( hint was only going by her looks go figure!(
and in the last generation or two most children do act like this because the parents had a dysfunctional relationship for too long before getting divorced and ignore how the children feel when going through all the mess entangled after >>
all broken relationships need mending and the parents should learn to work on themselves and just spend time with the children for a good while before venturing out looking for the next boyfriend / girlfriend/ or next live in or spouse>>
selfishness is on the grownups part is why children act out this badly and have too many rude and no manner teens and young adults >>
people keep wanting to forget while they are in the honeymoon period of their new relationship that twenty five years from now you will still BE stuck with that same man or woman for life when having a child or children together >>
there is really nice men and women out there with good intentions and their kids are not going to be perfect all the time so its looking at the whole picture when chosing to date and get serious with someone with children from a past relationship or ended marriage>>
i am one of those luckey ones to find the great man and i have three children>>
my son was not the best through his whole teens years and my daughters were really good but quiet with him and he still took the leap with me after three dates and seven years later we are all just fine and happy>> but the best thing i could of done was wait almost three years before i made that leap of faith so it can be done >> COMMON SENSE! and friendship is the best in any relationship people say it all the time and it is true true true >> passion and friendship and trust are the key through all the bumps in life !

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dcurvas Starting Over Insane
Can't Relate, But Hear Ya - Posted September 10, 2009

Men! I know you just love woman but you should really think before you get into a relationship with somebody that has kids. There are woman that are looking for daddies and woman that are looking for a meaningful relationship. It is important for the woman to bring her kids so one knows what they are dealing with. I would say if the woman is too into you in little time, RUN. A woman with children should never seem desperate not even in the sack, as why she may be alone with 2 kids. I am aware there are woman that like to conquist and thats fine, but not with children involved.
Me personally I lay out the law before anything happens so we are both clear on the rules. Kids first. A man has more respect for woman that cares for her kids, than one that spends all her time and attention on him.

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BRAZSCEE Single NOT SURE WHAT UP
Posted September 8, 2009

ONLY MY PERCEPTION TO ALL THOSE DATERS OUT THERE. i HAVE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY OWN SITUATION RIGHT NOW. I DO NOW PRACTICE THE FOLLOWING: I ASK FOR WHAT I WANT AND LOOK FOR ANSWERS NOT EXCUSES, AND IF IT DONT FEEL RIGHT, THEN IT PROBABLY AINT RIGHT.

ONCE TWO PEOPLE HAVE REACHED THE PLATEAU IN THAT SITUATION; IF ONE IS FEELING LEFT OUT AND NOT GETTING FREE WILL FROM THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL. ASK AND KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THINGS DO NOT MATCH UP, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS A FALSE WORD SPOKEN OR A CLOSET OF HIDDEN LIES, IT JUST MEANS SOMETHING AINT RIGHT. THE REAL DECISION IS WHAT CAN BE DONE OR ACCEPTED ON A GENERALLY HEALTHY LIFESTYLE LEVEL.

REALLY; NONE OF US SHOULD HAVE TO TRY THAT HARD TO ENJOY A SIMPLE PART OF LIFE; I ASKED MYSELF WHY AM I ALWAYS HAPPIER AND MORE BALANCED WITH NO ONE IN MY LIFE, IT IS BECAUSE I DO NOT DEMAND SELF WORTH IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM AND JUST MAYBE I SHOULD ONLY DATE A MAN THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH HOOPS TO GET THAT LOL....AND THERE ARE PLENTY OUT THERE.

AS FAR AS SINGLE PARENTS GO...I AM ONE AND MY KIDS ARE THE BEST AND VERY RESPECTABLE TO OTHERS......ANY MAN THAT I HAVE LET GO OF OR THAT HAS LEFT HAS MISSED OUT ON WHAT MONEY CANNOT BUY...AND THAT IS FACT AND TRUTH...SO WHOM I CHOOSE TO ALLOW IN MY LIFE NEXT; WILL JUST HAVE TO BE REAL AND HIMSELF AND ACCEPT ME AS I SHOULD ACCEPT HIM....SO AS ONE IS ON HIS WAY OUT, I AM NOT LOOKING FOR INSURANCE JUST ASSURANCE....GOT GIVE TO GET...

HOPE ALL WHO READ THIS MEET THAT ULTIMATE PERSON AND ENJOY LIFE TO IT S FULLEST, FOR A MOMENT OR A LIFETIME;......NO LIES NO JUDGMENTS NO USING .....JUST EXPECTIONS THAT CAN BE MET...

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Qverb Taken Rugburns, sarcasm, giggling, beautiful
Posted September 10, 2009

Please do us a favor and turn off your CAPS LOCK.

Thanks,

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Can Relate - Posted October 2, 2009

ALL CAPS IS VERY ANNOYING!!!!!!

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Madam D Complicated Unsure about love
Can Relate - Posted September 7, 2009

I am experiencing something similar. I’m single with a twelve year old son and when my son first met my boyfriend he wasn’t thrill by this new guy in our lives but I sit down and talked with about his feelings as well as mine for this man that was now in our lives. Things approved on my son’s part but now I sense on my boyfriend part a distance and unwillingness to build any type of relationship with him. It’s really sad because he’s a nice person outside of his behavior toward my child. I believe when you get into a relationship with someone who has children grown or minors you should make every effort to get along with those children if you truly care about that person.

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pmat49 Married
Posted September 20, 2009

exactly madam >>

if he truley cares about you he has to care and develop a relationship one step at a time with the child or children >>
nothing happens over night and you need to find out upfront why he is pushing himself away from knowing your son >>
nobodys child or children are perfect all the time >> good fantasy but in real life doesnt happen or very very rarely!
i read an article where meryl streep said that she loves her husband without looking everyday because her love is there deeply for him even when he doesnt look cute everyday or every
moment of their lives when they are together or apart that is mature level people need to
find because its not all about how they feel every moment of the day or night >>

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Posted September 7, 2009

How about these twelve red flags?

1. Terrible Divorce Story
2. No Relationship with Kids
3. Accused of stalking (not proven)
4. Accused of molesting his children (not proven)
5. Informed me that sometimes he's not in the mood to answer the telephone even if he knows it's me
6. When kissing for the first time, almost jumped me, then pulled back like he was on fire.
7. Told me, "Kissing you was not like it was in my imagination".
8. When having a bad day at work, emails me to inform I'm not allowed to call or email him until further notice
9. When asked to stop emailing me and phone me instead, emails me about apologizing for not phoning.
10. Claims he was not socialized by his parents.
11. Warns me there are dangers ahead for anyone who wants to get close to him.
12. Checks out during a visit, meaning, like his soul left the room, reason? Because I offerred him a drink and he's struggling with alcohol.

This, my friends, happened in a period of 2 weeks. From now on, I'm taking Michael's advice, first red flag and I'm outta there.

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single mommy Starting Over non-existant right now
Can Relate - Posted October 26, 2009

Yeah, I know a little about that..
My husband who I have been with for 5 years this Halloween (should have been a sign right there!) My husband has had about 20 different jobs, fired from all of them, never his fault, he lost one due to stalking a mail woman in his work truck and fondling himself in the middle of the street, he denied it and I don't believe in divorce so I decided to try to believe him. A few months after that, he was working at a new job and told me that people were having sex in the bathrooms, a week after that, his supervisor called him telling him not to come into work b/c he was spending too much time in the bathrooms which I heard him say. We were separated for 2 months. But I forgave him again and took him back. A couple of weeks after I'd taken him back, he was trying to hook up with his ex wife. He apologized and I forgave him again. Then last winter, he just up and walked out on me, and our son we have together. He begged me to forgive him again. We were separated for about 3 months that time. Then 2 weeks again after I'd let him come back home, I caught him using a CD as a mirror looking under the bathroom door at my sister getting undressed for her shower. My daughter and her friend were both up running around and I was there as well. Obviously he had done that numerous times or he wouldn't have been comfortable doing that with all of us there. So I'm finally in the process of a divorce right now, but he's got a new girlfriend now that he has apparently had since he left and she has a kid. Right before I caught him doing that to my sister, he gave up the rights to his other son he has from a previous marriage and hasn't seen our son more than 5 times in the past 5 months that he has been gone. Last night, he had the nerve to tell me that his new girlfriend is a better mom than I am and that she is the best mom he's ever seen. And that is coming from someone who gave up one son and doesn't care enough about the other one to come and see or give any support to. I'm scared to see where either of his son's would be without us mom's raising them. I'm a hell of a good mom and my kids come first and always will. I have a daughter as well and ever since my husband has left she's improved so much. She went from hating school to loving it. She is in gymnastics and cheerleading and she loves that. My son just turned 2 and can shoot basketball and make baskets from the hoop that hangs on the top of his bedroom door. My kids are amazing and when it's all said and done, I'm the one that is there, I am the one who loves them, and I'm the one they are going to thank someday. He can keep bouncing around leaving his path of destruction but we have overcome it and we aren't weak anymore. I'm done with the lies, done with the heartbreak, and I'm over it and looking forward to a much happier future whether I end up with someone else or not. It doesn't matter anymore b/c I'm done settling.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted October 26, 2009

I think it would be a good idea to take your daughter to a counselor and make sure she wasn't abused. You ex sounds disturbed and has a very bad behavior pattern towards women. Also, for him to give up rights to his child, the mom must have wanted him to stay away from her children - why?

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Sunflower9311 Single
Posted October 23, 2009

4. Accused of molesting his children
major worrisome
at best it's a false accusation lodged by a psycho ex who will cause problems in your relationship w/ him and who will use the kids against him at every chance.

at worst it's true.

5. won't answer the phone even if he knows it's you
symptom of depression--avoiding people, even those you care about
back to that convenience thing--he can't be bothered if it's going to require effort on his part.

6. the first kiss drama
that is one serious WTF mixed signal right there.

7. Kiss not matching his imagination & stating it out loud.
a bit of blaming you for not matching his fantasy. beware of more blame to come for things you have no control over. also, shows he has unrealistic expectations about you and how things between you should be.

8. bad day at work and cutting you off
more of that convenience thing and if you ignored his request, blaming you for whatever else went wrong after that.

9. email/phone drama
more serious WTF mixed signals. he has no idea what he wants.

10. blaming parents
more blaming other people for his problems. He is the poor victim of circumstance and nothing is every his fault.

11. warns you there are dangers ahead for being involved w/ him!?
why? is he telling you he will become violent? that gives creedence to the stalking claims.

12. the alcohol drama
If he didn't tell you he was an alcoholic, then he was punishing you. and that is your clue that he will punish you in similar ways when you displease him.

all in all you were so right to run from this guy. He's seriously damaged goods. And I agree, first red flag, end it.

red flags should be your deal breakers and never settle for someone who manifests a deal breaker. You will be miserable as long as you're with them.

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Sunflower9311 Single
Can Relate - Posted October 23, 2009

your 12 red flags and what they were really telling you:
1. Terrible Divorce Story
he wasn't over the marriage & was not ready to date. and if he was laying all the blame on his ex then he wasn't able to accept responsibility for his part in it.

2. No Relationship w/ Kids
most men who don't have a relationship w/ their kids claim that it was easier to abandon the kids than it was to deal w/ the ex.

at best: he is only interested when it's convenient for him but once things become difficult, he's gone. It's always all about him and what you or a situation can do for him, never what he can do for you or someone else.

at worst: it hints at something more sinister.

3. Accused of Stalking
worrisome, but if you're familiar w/ what to look out for then you should have a good idea of whether or not it was a reasonable accusation.

what he told you of the Terrible Divorce Story may give you some clues to the validity of the accusation.

4. Accused

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Annie Graffe Taken In Love
Posted September 15, 2009

Uh, It seems that you are the one she's talking about!!! If not why you get so offended, she's sharing her experience and is good... If you don't like it don't read it... Have a nice evening.

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Iced_Flames Single Dead, Extinct, Non-Existant, Imaginary
Can't Relate - Posted September 6, 2009

Hmmm...Although I would agree that the points you raised are specifically for you, most of them are trivial and I don't think most of them could be used as valid reasons for avoiding someone. I do have one point that I would like to mention though. The part about bad sex...What if, through accident or circumstance or whatever, a person could not have sex?

I don't want to say too much, but as long as no-one here knows my true identity I suppose it's OK... I can't physically have sex, due to a car accident that happened quite a few years ago. It's not so much a thing like "Oh, you have trouble getting it up, poor you", I am talking pure impossibility. Does this automatically disqualify me from ALL relationships? I just want to clarify, are you saying that if no sex can be had, that I will end up alone and cold for the rest of my life?

And, in regards to the whole egg thing, that can be a person's personal quirk, like collecting snails or something. That's no reason to avoid someone.

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Can't Relate - Posted October 4, 2009

Forgive me for saying so, but you sir, are part of the problem. You are missing the point that you make. It is true that the science behind the sexual differences between a man and a woman is proven.

Knowing that most women take longer to reach orgasm, if they do at all, is half the battle. Instead of thinking just of your own "5-13 minutes", you should focus on her 10-30 minutes. I'm not saying that it should be all about the woman, but if you take the time to get her "ready", you will be considered a much better lover, and a strong sex partner.

Pay attention to her signals. Kiss her (all over). It has been my experience, that if you take the time to make love to her entire body, and not just her "V", she will be more likely to reach nirvana when you do. Take her near, or even to that point a few times before you even consider yourself. And it is OK to just take care of her every now and then, without expecting anything in return.

I'm not saying that a good ol' "Quickie" is not called for at times. They can be great too! If you are a good lover, she just might enjoy the quickie as much as you. If you make love to her mind prior to jumping in the sack, the body WILL be prepared.

Take my advice for one month. If your sex life doesn't improve, call me out on it.

I've got to go now, My wife of 29 years will be home soon, and I need to prepare the bedroom.

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tampasusan Single
Posted September 7, 2009

I thought the article was well thought and his personal red flags. I think 10 out of the 12 were dead on. We all have our picky reasons why we might ditch someone. The egg thing was funny, but not reason enough to label it a red flag. Personally I can only eat ketchup on my eggs when they are over medium because that was my moms only way to get me to eat as a kid. But I would never eat them on a first date. I agree they do look gross! Other than that, if you really look hard, (even though people are on their best behavior) the red flags will shine through. On a date never talk about yourself but get the other person to talk about themselves. You will learn so much and they will leave the date thinking it was the best ever (since the conversation was all about them). Maybe the people that were so against what was said in the article got defensive because they probably felt they were reading about themselves in some of his stories.... Just a thought.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted September 6, 2009

I think there are many ways to have sex when people love each other. You can use hands and mouths and sex toys on each other. If even that is not possible, some people enjoy just talking and have phone sex.

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Posted September 7, 2009

I noticed it's always the married people who say the right things, why are you always taken?!!!

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Kaitlyn Gould Committed and happy
Posted September 10, 2009

Because the married ones know what it takes to make a relationship work, and the single ones are single because they haven't figured it out yet or haven't found the right person to figure it out with.

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MsHeartBeat Single Love Smarter, Not Harder.
Posted September 5, 2009

For those that are single parents who don't understand why someone wouldn't want to date you, read this:

10 Reasons Men Hate Dating Single Moms
http://www.askheartbeat.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32...

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Epop84 Taken Sexy, Confussing, Hillllarious, Loving
Can't Relate, But Hear Ya - Posted August 30, 2009

OK. Well. I have a baby girl. I myself haven't actually started dating other people, since my situation in particular, is...well. Special. lol. I'm hoping to still work things out with the "baby daddy". And if that fails-I am just looking to do my own thing and then maybe start dating down the road when and if I would be ready.

To comment on the author-I have to say-He wrote a great article. And no, maybe everyone else wont agree with his warning signs. But you allllll have to remember-they are for him. He wrote them for himself. I think some of them were great. But what take away from this is (besides valuable information that he collected through out the years of dating his experiences) maybe we should all try to take the time to make up our own warning signs and share them with others. I don't think every person will have the exact same list. But-I'm sure there are least 4 or 5 things that people can universally agree upon as warning signs.

lol- I can't help but laugh. You people shouldn't get so upset. Whatever happened to free speech? I just think it's just stupid to be so judgmental. Take this guy's article for what it is. He's not purposefully out bashing people or whatever. He was trying to help and share his list-that works for him. lmao. I also can't help but remember the story of the demon children...I hope my baby doesn't ever turn out like that. Yikes....

Great Read!

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TheAcademic Starting Over BLAHBLAHBLAH
Can't Relate, But Hear Ya - Posted August 29, 2009

Honestly, this guy can't win with you people. You accuse him of being selfish if he doesn't tolerate her bratty children, and would pillar him if he rejected her for even having them. The last time I checked, she was the one with kids, not him. He's looking for a relationship to make him happy, not her. I would be more critical of him if they were in a committed relationship and the children gradually became an issue, but for a third date? Hardly. He should have hightailed it outta there at date number two.

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Can't Relate - Posted August 28, 2009

Let me start by saying this was a total ingornat, narcissistic, insane, and obvious non-parent that wrote this article. Ketchup on eggs?? I think you seeing a single, struggling, bad-parenting mother as "hott" is sick. That comment only showed how mentally infantile you are, which should be a red flag for any self respecting woman. Maybe that is why you have spent the last 30 years dating and not being married and starting your own family. You focus on all the very small crap that doesn't make a person who they are. A person is not what they eat but rather thier beliefes, morales and thier heart. I only agree with a few things. How a person treats waiters/servers, thier dirty laundry and maybe money. I definatly agree with a lot of other people who have commented. I myself am I single mother and I am very independant. I work two jobs and recieve no child support...BECAUSE I CHOOSE NOT TOO!!

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Posted August 28, 2009

I payed for us to go to court and for him to sign his rights over. He decided he did not want the responsabily of being a parent. I think there are too many men and women these days that do not want to grow up or take responsabilty for themselves. We are all looking for perfection and want it right now, today, in our laps. No one wants to work for anything. We need to start looking at ourselves and betting within before we start pointing fingers at others. If we all did the best we could at being good human beings then we might not have such a hard time loving someone who ate ketchup on thier eggs.

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Ty Married
Posted August 23, 2009

There are no red flags except on ourselves for our ability to deal with issues. It all boils down to issues of acceptance, character, commitment, discipline, knowledge,emotional composure and the like.

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Lyz Married Community Manager
Posted August 24, 2009

Does that philosophy work if he's a serial killer?

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Melissa Hiett Single The virtual claddagh ring
Posted August 21, 2009

Ketchup on eggs is a DEALBREAKER!? That's just a stupid opinion. I happen to not like broccoli, but if the person I'm dating does; it doesn't mean that I should end the relationship. Geez.

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Can Relate - Posted October 2, 2009

He never explains why ketchup on eggs is a dealbreaker. Shallow and stupid, not the best advice.

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Anita Taken
Posted August 19, 2009

This writer really disburbs me. So self centered and ignorant. I hope he doesn't have kids--he is so clueless. This mother is including her kids in her dating life. very wrong. The kids should not even meet her dates until she is sure the man is going to be in her life a while and he is decent. Instead she is bringing them on dates. Of course they are upset and acting up. People coming in and out of their lives all the time creates great insecurity. She is doing great damage to them and so is this yo yo who actually thinks he is qualified to give relationship adive. This writer is a complete a donkey. It's all about him. Idiot. Selfish idiot.

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Sunflower9311 Single
Posted October 23, 2009

YES! for me that was the red flag w/ the kids--that she involved them in her dating life.

I was raised by a single mom who dated a lot. I only ever met 3 of her dates: the first guy she dated after she and my dad divorced, a guy she was serious about when I was 15, and the man she finally married.

on occasion I date single dads. I don't want to meet their kids unless it looks like I'm going to be hanging around for a while. I don't see the point in getting the kids all upset about dad seeing someone new or getting attached to me if I won't be around for long.

When kids meet everyone their parents date, then they never know when someone is special.

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Frederica Bimble Starting Over
Posted August 17, 2009

The children's behaviour is easy to decipher - from the "slug-like" behaviour of dragging themselves behind the adults to acting out in the restaurant. You showed up on a "first date" and met a selfish person's children. You and the woman are both adults and you are both selfish. You want to date her because, after all, she is "hot" and she just wants the burden of rearing her children alone to be lessened. The children's reaction to having to get up to change clothes is a display from them of having done is too many times. They aren't getting any attention because it sounds like their mother isn't mature and also may have some issues pertaining to her boundaries. The children were being disrespected by mom and you. Also, you display immaturity as well. Your first reaction was to "blame the children" and not look at them as frightened and neglected - which is the source for such behaviour in children. You are the grown-up and it was your choice to go meet her instead of saying, "It is a bit soon to meet your children." "I'd like to take you out on your own to get to know you first."
The children are the ones who ought to be writing the article about the nasty man who showed up just to try to screw their mother and how much they feel frustrated that they can't make their mom happy and bring a good man into her life. Children almost always blame themselves.

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Posted August 15, 2009

Wow, I can't believe the debate that this light-hearted article is inspiring. Some of these "red flags" are kind of tongue-in-cheek. For a more serious look at when you should STOP pursuing a relationship, check out: http://ezinearticles.com/?Should-You-Leave-Him-%28or-Her%29?-Knowing-Whe...

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lhmccracken Starting Over Respect begins with you
Can't Relate - Posted August 15, 2009

I am amazed this guy even went on a second date! From a mother who raised four children, it is obvious this woman is raising two children who have no true boundaries. I find this woman's behavior lazy and inexcusable when she fails to teach her children the meaning of respect for others as well as themselves. I shudder to imagine what happens when they enter their teen years. If they behave so rude and disrespectful without any intervention from their parent now, the result is obvious. I have seen the end result of such parental disregard and consider it a form of child neglect. It will be the children who become social outcasts when their behavior is not tolerated. And this is the generation that we have to look forward to in our later years? Why would any person, (man or woman) accept such treatment from anyone at any age! These children aren't angry at the situation, they are products of an uncaring parent who is too lazy to teach how not to become anti-social adults.

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turtle Single
Posted August 15, 2009

one one thing, children come with the package.
if a man( a grown man) can't come to terms and be patient with a lady's children, then how on earth is this man going to be there for this lady when more serious things happen in life? i mean, if a man really loves a woman, take her for who she is.
how would this guy feel if the shoe were on the other foot.
we learn to live with life's situations (family situations) through love.
if you ask me, i would kick him to the curb and find a nice man who likes kids.

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donst Starting Over someone who enjoys life
Posted August 15, 2009

i was married for many years to a women that had 2 kids but to this day they both call me dad. It wasn't an easy thing but well worth it.

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phillygirl Starting Over He rocks my world
Can't Relate - Posted August 12, 2009

For the life of me, I cannot figure out 1) why a woman would introduce a new man to her children on the first date and 2) what kind of man would go along with this. No wonder the children were upset and angry. They were most likely annoyed and upset at having their vacation interrupted by this obnoxious, nasty, little man who clearly held them in disdain. Children will act out their displeasure in ways that can be embarrassing, hence why the mother was trying to calm them without making a scene. This was probably not their normal behavior.

Children are also experts at picking out hypocrites.

Have some pride in yourself! Date the woman, not the children.

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bulldog Starting Over
Can Relate - Posted August 12, 2009

i totally agree with you.. he had no reason being there.. and the mom letting him be there..WOW..let me tell you though date the woman not the children i agree... another red flag for anyone out there..... i dated a woman with children for 7+ yrs and i should have seen the red flag i month into the relationship but i was dumb... she said that her ex would never be involved in our realationship and her kids,,, big mistake big reason why we broke up... so when you are told there is no ex involved..and there are kids in the picture.. RED FLAG. a parent is never REALLY 100% gone. he/she COULD make your life miserable.

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PeachyTarheel Complicated
Posted August 8, 2009

LOL, we all have our deal breakers! I am seeing a man now that forgot his wallet the first time we met so I paid for the coffee. We sat and talked for 4 hours and there were some terrible things that came out in that conversation on both our sides. We are honest with each other and have had several conversations about bad things in our past without judging each other, which makes me appreciate him even more. We both have been hurt, but who hasn't? The fact that we liked each other enough to sit and talk until we were asked to leave because the place was closing speaks volumes to me. That was 8 months ago and after a small bump in the road (my issue, not his) we are together.

What are we? hell if I know, but I do know I like him and the more time I spend with him, the more time I want to spend with him. The sex and desire is strong and fantastic, the conversations are honest, the respect and kindness is mutual, the communication is open and frequent and I am glad to be able to call him my friend and lover.

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ginaiboo Complicated crazy, sexy, cool,yeah!
Can't Relate, But Hear Ya - Posted August 2, 2009

hmm, why involve the kids!? sound more like little brats to me but anyways, why would anyone take their kids on a date? geesh !

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gobragh7 Taken
Posted July 29, 2009

Some of these are just your own personal deal breakers that are really weird. Who cares if someone puts ketchup on eggs? Not a big deal!

I think what most people were looking for with this was something that they could all apply to their own lives. Not to hear about your pet peeves.

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bella1 Starting Over
Posted July 28, 2009

Red Flag #1: A man selfish enough to insist on / agree to crash 2 children's vacation with their mom. For a first date.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted July 28, 2009

I am chronically late and it has nothing to do with whether or not I want to get to where I'm going. It's just me.

On the other hand, if you can't live with someone who's chronically late, you might as well break it off.

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djackson265 Married
Posted August 1, 2009

Well, BookMama, I'm going to do you a favor and explain to you why your chronic tardiness is a red flag. It says, quite loudly, that you have no respect for others, and do not care that you are wasting their lives when you make them wait for you.

It also says that you don't have any self-respect, or you would be on time for things that interest you; being "chronically late" means you respect nobody, including yourself. Many studies conducted over several decades have shown that chronic tardiness is one of the most dependable indicators of lack of self-love and lack of self-respect in anyone, and before any of you young mothers with babies claim that it's impossible, no, it's not, and other young mothers who insist on being punctual and plan ahead so that they are (and who, incidentally, exhibit overwhelming signs of high self-esteem) prove it daily.

So you may want to take another look at yourself and your priorities, and be very honest with yourself about how you are perceived, because with such an obvious lack of self-respect and self-esteem, the only kind of man you will attract is one who also lacks self-respect and self-esteem and will settle for someone like himself.

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Kaitlyn Gould Committed and happy
Posted September 10, 2009

I am chronically late. It isn't a lack of respect or self-esteem. It's just poor time-management skills.
Also, being a young mother myself, I would much rather be late to something than neglect the needs of my child for the sake of punctuality. If she suddenly needs a change as I am about to walk out the door, everything gets dropped and she gets changed NOW. If she suddenly decides she's hungry when I'm getting ready, she gets fed NOW. Babies are impulsive little things. They don't understand schedules or the idea of being somewhere on time. When they're so little, they can't be spoiled just by attending to their basic needs.
I have incredibly high self-esteem. I think I am a great mother and girlfriend. I think I am worth waiting 10 minutes for. I have no idea what "studies" you are quoting from, but whatever "scientists" conducted them must have been pulling those "statistics" out their behinds. My lack of organizational skills do not mean I hate myself or the person I am regrettably making wait.
My man also has high self-esteem and knows what he's worth. He is annoyed by my lateness, but seeing as I have the courtesy to call when I'll be more than 5 minutes late, not only do I show that I respect him, but also he has reason to still be able to rely on me. He understands my unwillingness to ignore the baby just so we can get somewhere on time, and in turn, he respects me for my devotion to our child.
Your response was shallow, ignorant, and quite frankly insulting. I find it rather appalling that you feel you can judge someone using phony data. In fact, you remind me very much of my ex-boyfriend, who I ran far, far away from because he was such an egotistical, judgmental pig. If anything, your ignorance is a huge red flag for anyone, unless they are also egotists or are willing to let you use them as a door mat.

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Chiana Single
Can't Relate - Posted August 18, 2009

well this explains why you Book Mama is happily married, and you are merely married. Anyone who is so narrow-minded as you, must be slowly driving your wife away emotionally. You are quick to proclaim that a stranger lacks self-esteem and respect for other people, do you always think that you know everything about other people? Overall, your comment leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. You should be careful, your judgmental ways will leave you alone and friendless. The only other people YOU will attract are negative, embittered old men. The kind that hang out on park benches and yell at the children to get off the grass.

Book Mama, really appreciated your comments. You sound like a wonderful woman, and your husband is lucky to have found you. I would ignore djackson's comments, don't think many people would agree with him.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted August 1, 2009

Well, actually I had no trouble attracting someone despite my lack of punctuality. He likes to be on time, but is wonderful in every other way. I'm certainly lucky to have gotten him.

From my observation, non-punctual women never had trouble attracting and keeping guys, even one friend who was normally more than an hour late to anything. I suspect that chronically late people are also warm, easy-going, tolerant, and creative - all traits that make for good mates.

Attitudes about time are also a cultural thing. One thing I loved in Hawaii was when that no one ever ran for the bus. As a co-worker explained it to me, another one would be along in 15 minutes. Punctuality matters only if people care about it.

Maybe the studies you cite are finding that late people feel bad because they get attacked a lot. I suspect that chronically late people in cultures that care less about punctuality have higher self-esteem.

In any case, I would not want to be involved with someone who felt that he his life was being wasted if had to wait fifteen minutes in a cafe. Nor would I find it pleasant to be involved with someone who was quite so judgmental and critical of other people's flaws. So perhaps it would all work out for the best if you saw my habits as a red flag - you would decide that I lacked self-esteem and I would be spared a life-time of being ripped apart in arguments.

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Chiana Single
Can Relate - Posted August 18, 2009

A little P.S. to my comments above directed towards Jackson. The studies he vaguely refers to are B.S. There are a number of studies that look at potential reasons, and none of them are low self-esteem. Sometimes it can indicate lack of respect, but that is specific to a person or type of event. If it happens for every activity, there are several different possibilities. None of them indicate a character flaw.

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theprb Single
Posted August 1, 2009

I agree with djackson. My mom will be late for her own funeral. I can't stand it. My dad and I are always early. Always. He divorced her after two years of marriage. I can totally see why. If a guy is late for a first date with me, I will not go out with him again. ugh....I deal with people from other cultures who are chronically late. I can't stand it. ugh...!

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Kaitlyn Gould Committed and happy
Posted September 10, 2009

In some cultures, showing up early is considered incredibly rude. A little tolerance for other cultures might do you some good.

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BookMama Married Happily Married
Posted August 1, 2009

Well, I assume he had some other, better reasons for the divorce after only two years of marriage.

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Qverb Taken Rugburns, sarcasm, giggling, beautiful
Posted August 1, 2009

Wow...I can't wait to see her reply to this.

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Bri Taken Confused, Suspitious, Angery
Posted July 23, 2009

I love ketchup on my eggs! But I do agree about the kids they say if your kids don't like him he's not a keeper!! They can spot a jerk at first glance lol

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Can Relate - Posted July 12, 2009

Yes i definately agree that paying attention to red flags when you see them will alleviate a lot of pain and heartache later on had you gone on with the relationship. Being realistic about what you don't like and cannot live with is a survival technique everyone should learn. A person must be independent and able to live on their own without a companion until the right companion comes along.

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Fishman Taken
Can Relate - Posted July 7, 2009

Another thing to keep an eye on is how they treat their parents. Were they troubled teens growing up? Did they get into a lot of trouble.

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Kaitlyn Gould Committed and happy
Posted September 10, 2009

You have to be careful with that one. Sometimes acting out is retaliation for genuinely bad parenting, such as abuse or neglect. In other cases, though, they're just not someone you want to be around. You're right there.

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Posted July 6, 2009

Ummmm.....I love ketchup on eggs. Does that make me undateable?

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Qverb Taken Rugburns, sarcasm, giggling, beautiful
Posted July 23, 2009

No, just unedible. ; )

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iamcitykitty Complicated So done with loving!
Posted August 14, 2009

HAHHAHA, too funny!

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Posted June 30, 2009

Ketchup on eggs is a flag? Why? Just because you personally don't think it tastes good? So, anything that a person likes to eat has to be exactly what you like/ dislike or it's a red flag? Give me a break. Stop being such a preppie. I take it your relationships are short-lived...

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RWNRJC Complicated
Posted June 19, 2009

Passerby wrote: If I was to give birth or to adopt, I would love the child I gave birth to with a different love than the adopted child. There's always this distance with a child that is not your own. You don't see "YOURSELF" in the child and therefore you have to LEARN to love them"

Honey, since you don't have children, I guess you don't really understand. I've got bio kids and adopted kids and there is no difference in my love for them. Just the other day I was thinking about how glad I was that my daughter had nice thick hair just like her grandpa's. I had to laugh at myself when I remembered that she is adopted...and she and I are not even the same race - I am caucasian/hispanic and she is Asian. No difference in how I love her, her other adopted sibling, or her siblings that are my bio children. I loved her before I met her, and routinely forget that she is not of my flesh. But she is of my heart.

Okay, here are MY DEALBREAKERS - I hope you all find them useful:

1. Rude to waiters, etc. I agree with the author on this one.
2. Judgemental and critical of others all the time.
3. Tells all of his problems on the first date.
4. Blames all of his problems on other people.
5. Gay-basher or any-other-group basher. (not respectful of others)
6. Goes overboard on the foul language - anything more than the occasional curse word.
7. Name-dropper or the kind that always tells you how much something costs.
8. Can't hold an intelligent conversation and is not interested in anything educational.
9. Hates kids, or does not understand that sometimes you have to turn down a date because of something to do with your kids.
10. Abusive to animals. Kicks cats.

THOSE are the RED FLAGS I would run from. No doubt.

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Kaitlyn Gould Committed and happy
Posted September 10, 2009

I totally agree! I love what you said about your children. Truly, only a parent could understand the love of a parent for their children, biological or not :) I also love your list. Those are serious dealbreakers for me too!

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theprb Single
Posted August 1, 2009

I like your list, too, especially the animals thing. Never trust a person who doesn't like animals.

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Qverb Taken Rugburns, sarcasm, giggling, beautiful
Posted July 23, 2009

Woohoo! I love this list!

But what if your cat is abusive to your girlfriend?

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Watersisland Starting Over
Can Relate - Posted June 19, 2009

I like your list best. They're all pertinent items that I've found to be deal breakers-unfortunately it took me a while. But it wasn't 'HE's though, it was SHE's. Women are just as likely to have any of these character defects as men. With one exception though: #10. Funny how some women might not even really like kids, but they like CATS.

I can certainly agree with you on non-biological kids. I raised a daughter almost from birth that was not my biological daughter. NO parent could ever love their child MORE than, or as much, as I love MY LITTLE GIRL! She starts college in the fall.

But what's the deal with ketchup on eggs??? I, ...uh,..... ah,.......uhm,..... ........NO PROBLEM!

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csonneberger Taken
Can Relate - Posted June 15, 2009

I hate to agree with the most recent comment...but, I totally disagree with the most recent comment. The superficial part of the discussion is the part where the only reason he kept going out with her was because she is "hot". It is obvious that her kids had no respect for adults, even the mother!? If her own kids do not have respect for her...what does that say about the respect she has for herself!? I have had my share of ignoring the red flags due to great sex, handsome guy, or what seemed to be the "perfect match" of a guy. And, believe it or not...this was all in one guy. What I have learned from that situation is...don't ignore anything that bothers you from the beginning. It will NOT go away...and only get worse. And, for that matter so will the relationship. Relationships are hard enough to start with...not to mention walking into one see things that bother you.

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sandalina Married
Can't Relate - Posted June 15, 2009

Obviously Mr. Shnayerson isn't "the one" for most women. His advice is laughable at best. He clearly lacks any real depth or understanding what it takes to have a successful and meaningful relationship, which is why after many years he is still single. He can come up with a bunch of ridiculous reasons to break up with someone because he never gets past the superficial. A red flag over ketchup on eggs? Bratty children? 10 minutes late to a date? Bad sex--hmmmm, maybe look in the mirror over this one...
I got news for you pal. As someone who's clearly a bit older, your dating prospects come with a lot of baggage--a lot. Most have been through a divorce, have kids, and busy schedules. Try to get past some dirty socks will ya'? If not, you're going to be an awfully lonely man in that expensive house in the Hamptons.

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sunnyskies Single
Posted June 13, 2009

Michael, you are a combination of too metrosexual and a Woody Allen wannabe, compounded by being a Liberal and Liberal men treat women horribly in my experience. You will never find anyone to be involved with for more than a year or two. I am not talking about the ketchup on eggs thing, that is just put in to be provocative I'm sure. Stop thinking you are the guy from Sideways who will run into a very pretty woman who will be charmed by you, won't happen or at least not in the way you want. Be grateful for anyone who will put up with your persnicketyness. I do agree with you about demon kids and some other aspects, but 10 min. late is ridiculous, I would say 20 min late for three times deserves a sitdown talk, and maybe even termination, but find out the reason and set limits at that point such as another time more than 15 min late and it's over.

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FREDRIC Single
Can Relate - Posted June 13, 2009

Your experience about "demon kids" really hit home. I can't say it was completely a red flag for me, as I was really fond of mom, but it probably would have become one if you know what you're talking about... How about this for a red flag...I once dated a woman I thought I really liked until she began biting off and spitting the ends of her finger nails during a movie. Yuuuk !!

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LastLaugh Complicated
Posted June 13, 2009

Where's the Hamptons??

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Watersisland Starting Over
Posted June 22, 2009

The Hamptons? Amy and Wayne Hampton use to live in a double wide down the street but I heard they moved back to Arkansas.

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DrJennYDC Taken
Can Relate - Posted June 12, 2009

I don't understand how ketchup on eggs is a red flag (I like ketchup on my eggs just fine, thankyouverymuch!), but I don't remember reading anything about thinking, "I hope he's/she's not like that in the future."

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Melanie36 Married 5 years happily married
Posted June 11, 2009

I totally agree with the point that you have to stop a new relationship when the red flags appear. Maybe not one (or ketchup on the eggs) but when the signs point to "he's not the one" don't keep hanging on out of fear that he's the only one. That sets up a self-fulfilling prophesy.

Trust that there are more men out there and let the one with the red flags GO!

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genevieve Single
Can Relate - Posted June 11, 2009

I agree with the Rude To Waiters red flag & I think that extends to all people, regardless of their job. I always notice when a man is particularly kind & generous to people. That's a big green flag for me.

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Nicole Single i'm not into you
Can Relate - Posted June 11, 2009

I love how everyone just latches on to the ketchup and eggs part of this story. Yes, it's disgusting but how is it a red flag? It shouldn't even be a dealbreaker.

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zeflyt Single
Posted June 11, 2009

I once dated a young woman with two kids, as it turned out I had more fun playing with the kids then I did with the woman. And here is a red flag for me, a woman who is too interested in accomodating me then her children.

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passerby Married
This Happened To Me! - Posted June 6, 2009

Hey, my husband puts ketchup on his eggs! I really don't care! I personally never liked
ketchup on eggs but whats the difference anyways? If it tastes good, why not? Or is there
some rule for passing gas after eating ketchup with eggs? My husband never passes gas
after eating ketchup with his eggs and ketchup with his eggs is an absolute must! He eats
eggs like almost every morning and there has to be ketchup, mayo, pickles, plus seasoning on his eggs! It sounds silly that someone would think eating food combinations can be a red flag! And everybody is different, you always have to look at what the author says in light of who he is. People have their own opinions and this could be the experience he gathered that
would fit "HIS" particular situation in life and not "EVERYBODY'S"!

Real parents always love their own children much more, no matter how much a new parent
tries. The children always remind the partner of his/her partners previous partner and that
could be bothersome. But when you have made a mistake not possible to correct, you have to choose the best possible solution, whichever that may be.

Just do some research on children and step-mom's and dads. Sometimes children deslike the person and act out because they feel the person's deslike for them! Children have feelings, they want their original mommy and daddy together because that's who loves them the most, like themselves.

If I was to give birth or to adopt, I would love the child I gave birth to with a different love than the adopted child. There's always this distance with a child that is not your own. You don't see "YOURSELF" in the child and therefore you have to LEARN to love them.

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oceanbabe_mgb Married Married to my SoulMate
Can't Relate - Posted August 31, 2009

Passerby;
as the parent of an adopted daughter I can assure you I see myself in her eyes, and there was no LEARNING involved when it came to loving her, she is in me and I am in her. and she was not a baby when my husband and I adopted her but it doesn't matter she is no less a part of this family than anyone one else, she even looks just like me!!

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calico anne Taken romantic, special, great communication!
Can't Relate - Posted August 22, 2009

Passerby, this may be the most cold-hearted viewpoint I have heard all month.

I was adopted, and I know my birth mother as well. I met her when I was 16. There is nothing in the world that frustrates me more than when someone has the audacity to ask if I would have rather grown up with my "real parents" or is rude enough to call my parents my "step-parents."

Let me get one thing straight. Your parents are the ones who tuck you in at night; who read you bed time stories, pick you up when you fall, change your diapers, and hold you when you cry. Just because someone donates an egg or some sperm does not qualify them as "parents."

My biological father paid to have me aborted. My biological mother threw his money over the side of a ship, and here I sit. I'm grateful she didn't kill me. That being said, she still didn't have enough respect for my life to get prenatal care until her 8th month of pregnancy, and some of the things I face (such as athsma, for example) might had been prevented if she'd done the right thing. The ONE good thing she's ever done for me is to let me be adopted, because while I may be partial, I feel that I have the best PARENTS in the world. They have provided me with stability, opportunity, and more love and acceptance than most people could ever manage, whether they had a hand in producing the child themselves or not.

As for the comment that you don't see "yourself" in the child and that you must "learn to love them," I sincerely hope that you never have the opportunity to adopt, because no child deserves to feel like a second class citizen because their mother is narcissistic enough to have to have her own physical characteristics reflected in her children in order to love them.

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Flicka Starting Over
This Happened To Me! - Posted June 13, 2009

Passerby..I 'deslike' your comments on love and adopted children; they're offensive. You don't have any children yet comment about what you are 'sure' you would do/feel as a 'real' parent. Here's a life lesson for you.... most times, it's best to reserve your opinions for when you are actually experiencing the situation. Do your research then, otherwise, how can you REALLY know what you would do in ANY situation? Step-parenting is much different that adoptive parenting. If you need to see 'yourself' in 'your' child to love them deeply...well...just what is THAT really saying?

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passerby Married
This Happened To Me! - Posted June 6, 2009

I recommend reading the book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" by Joshua Harris and then "Boy
Meets Girl" by the same author. Don't blow someone off just because they are not good with
sex or the way you want it done. Read a book on the subject with the person, there are books without images as well, numerous books written on this subject. You have to discuss it with
the partner, now if you are comparing them to your previous partner then you need to blame
that only on yourself. You are experienced, you know what you want, if you have to explain
what you want they may get upset because it will remind them of your past relationships.
So just stop with the blame game, sex takes practice, and it has to be studied, but the best
sex is when two people are pure and they are really interested in each other. No amount of
experience with sex is going to solve your inner desires to be desired and wanted. Now trying
to stay pure might make you more attractable in sex. Maybe the reason the other party is
so bad is because you are this"EXPERT", you know all the in's and out's and they are just
not that level, maybe if they had been, you would not be their best candidate for sex either, which, in my opinion, that would be the case. The more I know about sex the less "EXPERIENCE" interests me because I would be willing to work alongside someone who was willing to learn with me what I like and dislike. Now I think a partner who is willing to learn is a much better asset than someone who is so experienced they know it all. Well if you are so experienced....I do recommend that you get someone JUST AS EXPERIENCED to SEE FOR YOURSELF what you are doing to someone else! You DESERVE IT!

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Lyz Married Community Manager
Posted June 6, 2009

I've read "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" and it has nothing to do with being an expert on sex and everything to do with "courting" so young people aren't "tempted" to have sex. It was a terrible book that is completely out of touch with culture and reality and completely misreads the evolution of culture. Joshua Harris is blinded by nostalgia for a time when women were forced into marriages for money , excuse me....women were treated as sacred holy vessels? The book "From the Front Porch to the Back Seat" shows how this nostalgia for courting is misplaced. And actually the idea of dating emphasizes monogamy more than courting ever did.

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tdumpling Taken unexpected but perfect
Can Relate - Posted June 5, 2009

this made me laugh, and many of them are true (although...i admit, i put ketchup on my eggs and LOVE IT).

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Raymond James Thibault Starting Over
Can Relate - Posted June 1, 2009

I'm a 55 year old Army Veteran. I am Divorced, lasted 24 years, 11 months and 22 days, Widowed she died of type 1 diabetes complications, friend, lover, drinking partner and absolute partner. I miss her dearly. 7 years, 5 months and 27 days Best time of my life until now. found one my age era. A fellow trekkie. a reader, thinker and highly opinionated. Me I'm a strong willed, college educated mechanical engineer. hardened combat veteran. I agree with the 12 points. Seen em Lived them a time or two. there is one more. When she tells you a story and her friends tell you a different one. Its a red flag if it happens because a grasp of reality is missing. I'm a Gemini, shes an Aries. We fit very well in all we do together. We listen while the other talks. We laugh, cry and generally bull s**t with each other like very old friends. She's close to my age thats all I'll say. We had a working relationship that turned into a LOVE Affair that other people noticed first. True love sneaks up on you and blossoms. Its real when you can both agree on the important stuff. At a Bar or resturant I can order for her she me. I can anticipate her needs, she mine. We give each other space. There is no-one else in either of our lives. Just wait friends it comes. 3rd time a charm.

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wisemama03 Complicated (sort of) in relationship
Posted May 23, 2009

I think that the majority...oh,hell, who am I kidding...all of these are a good beginners guide to red flags. Made in a humorus way, of course. I hate people who put ketchup on their eggs, and I'm dating someone who does this. It's bad when a person has egg gas(we all get it..admit it!) but it smells even worse if the eggs were eaten with ketchup!UGH! Let's just say, this guy has been showing red flags(almost all that you mentioned!) since we've dated, and he's on his way out the door.
To all who are single-print it, keep in in your wallet, and never let this go. Red flags may differ from person to person, but I think this list is something we can all agree on.
Unless you like people who eat eggs with ketchup,have a bad relationship with their parent(s), and constantly wear dirty clothes.....UGH!
Mama J

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Chiana Single
Can't Relate - Posted August 18, 2009

The egg comment is ridiculous. I originally thought it was a silly-add so we'd realize the writer wasn't serious, but reading so many comments that agreed with it, was discouraging. Unless you're a vegan and have a moral reason for not eating eggs, all this prejudice displays is your own narrow minded personality. I say any food is fine, unless it's still moving (except for jello - and I feel squeamish about that since it's derived from horse hoofs).
Oh and any meat that comes from a tamed animal, a sentient being or one closely related to us, biologically speaking. SO eating chimp, gorilla, orangutan, whale, dog, cat would be verboten.

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Kamgigs Engaged spontaneous, passionate, playful, romantic
Posted May 22, 2009

I like ketchup on my eggs. I'm also smarter than you.

I agree with everyone; these "red flags" seem like YOUR personal dis-likes.

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Sumhope Single
Posted May 22, 2009

as far as the 'bad sex' flag- sex is just like playing the piano... it will get better with practice :D

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jss Complicated occasionally worthy of comment
Posted May 21, 2009

"Chronic lateness" means 10 minutes late? I never would have even met some of my nicest partners if THAT was a red flag. I just learned to tell them they needed to show up a half an hour before they really did.

Rudeness to waiters -- spot-on. A Great red flag.

Fling-o-matics -- I guess it depends on what you want. Three months, on occasion, has been exactly what I wanted and what I got.

Demon children -- spot-on again. Never worth it.

Bad sex -- the ultimate deal-breaker. Most people don't know the difference until they've been around a bit, though. When I was 25, there was no such thing as bad sex.

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Posted May 4, 2009

I wouldn't want to get involved with a guy who has a child either and I love my parents. I've done it before and they ARE an encumbrance, whether they're bad or not. I'd make the concession if had children of my own - but I don't. For a woman who still has plenty of options children are a deal breaker.

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Posted April 27, 2009

The Demon Children rule, you have got to give some room to that, I got divorced last year and then my children 8 and 6, both girls lost their grandfather whom they were very close to. Yes, I would say there has been a fair amount of acting out, especially given the fact their father bad-mouths me constantly. They are great kids, creative, great in school, very well behaved in public, but at home we have had some struggles, you cannot make a blind statement without looking at all the circumstances. I have been dating a man for sometime and just introduced him to my children, I do not think you should even involve the children in your dating life until a relationship has been well established, any other way could be more painful to the children, what are people thinking?

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cmac Starting Over
Can Relate - Posted June 4, 2009

I have three children. And I am divorced. So, when their dad calls (which is once every 4-5 months), they act out. they are angry with him and they have to let it out somehow. However, my kids are very respectful of me and they are well-behaved. I get so many compliments on them! And my boyfriend handles them very well....and the problems we have! So, you need to include some leniency in this red flag!

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Posted April 26, 2009

I had to quit reading your article because it was so lame.
Red flag because of ketchup on eggs? You are a clueless man. There should be a red flag on a man that says "gross." That's my red flag. You are too descriptive and particular to be a real man. If I dated you, I'd feel like a lesbian.

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latashaellis Married
Posted April 18, 2009

I have not once heard anyone mention the fact that the children just need a father figure and if you are not the one who wants children, you should not even date a woman with children. Those children not having a positive role model and guy to look up to could be why they are so rebellious, so if you have a problem with it, fix it, and dont cry to the world about little flaws that tell us why you are divorced and alone anyways.

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brokenglass911 Complicated Crazy, Beautiful, Outspoken, Hated
Posted April 18, 2009

Ok, I can agree with chronic lateness and I think that it goes hand-in-hand with breaking plans. Once or twice is ok, but after the third time, it's time to bolt.

I don't agree with ketchup on eggs...that's just someone's preference. I put "seasoning salt" on my eggs and french toast. I'm weird, but it's my food - not yours.

I agree with being rude to service workers. I've been one. I know that they're just trying to do their job, and someone being an ass to them is a total turn-off for me.

Scary divorce/breakup stores I can also agree with. There is no need in filling in a new date about all of your battle wounds, save it.

I have two Beagles, and they're my children. I love my dogs and if someone was mean to them...they'd get the boot. Some people are animal lovers and that's just how it is, get over it.

Fling-o-matic: Some people just aren't commitment material.

Demon children - I don't have children and my #1 RULE is that I DON'T DATE MEN WHO HAVE CHILDREN. I'll be the first to tell you that I'm not your Mother or your babysitter. I simply don't date men with children, sorry.

Money matters - I only date men who are employed, and until we're "exclusive" I expect him to pick up the tab. Once we're actually dating, I don't mind pitching in or picking up dinner for a night in...but I don't date cheap men either.

Parent trap - I can agree with this to a certain extent. However, I don't like people who bad-mouth their parents. I love my parents and had a great childhood. Seriously, unless you were beaten, malnourished, and molested... it couldn't have been that bad. I'm talking to a guy (now) who grew up with both parents in the military... he had a crappy childhood with limited amounts of time to "be a kid" he jokes that the "Jack Russell out-ranked him and his brother" - He's humorous about it, but he's let me know that his childhood wasn't a walk-in-the-park.

Bad sex - I disagree with a lot of the comments about this one. I like good sex, and it doesnt have to be, slap me, beat me, and call me Edna kind of good sex, but if he really sucks in bed... Sorry, not for me.

Lastly, I've never paid attention to any man's underwear or socks. Me - I hardly ever wear socks and I like cute underwear!

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JannyPi Complicated
Posted April 5, 2009

I've been flagged because of my kids twice. Once, when they were 8 & 11 and the guy was 32, divorced and didn't have kids. Those that don't have children always have opinions about how single parents rear their kids. They don't have the first CLUE what's in a small child's head, and they spend most of the time criticizing the parent because the kids aren't under tight control. Kids are naturally suspecious of "Mommy's new friend" and need some time and to share some events with the new friend to really decide if they're going to be nice or nasty. Kids aren't a bit forgiving either. If you hurt their Mom, or make her cry, you're as good as gone. It's a rare parent that would choose a mate over their children and if they did, that would be a HUGE red flag.

My second time getting flagged, my kids were 22 & 24. This guy was a father (52) who saw his two kids once or twice a month and had zero responsiblity for their day to day lives. He was always broke, so his father paid his child support. My kids weren't mean to him, but they intimidated him. I have a great relationship with my kids,, mainly because I remember being a kid myself. I've learned to pick my battles with the kids and not harp on every screw up or play head games about who is in control. I'm not their friend, and I have earned their respect. They never acted out harshly in their teens and have compassion for others. They worked hard in college, stayed away from drugs and the big party life, and are going to make excellent parents themselves someday.

In both cases, the kids were RIGHT and the guy wasn't worth my time. I finally was able to recognize my "savior"type personality which caused me to drag home strays. I first thought that the kids weren't concerned with my happiness, but have come to realize that I'm naive in certain ways and that they are protecting me. I'm not stupid, by any stretch. I just expect that someone will be truthful to me because integrity is important to me. Sadly, that's not always the case with people and they will lie, cheat & steal their whole lives.

I also disagree with the bad sex flag. There can be poor communication, but if you're not having good sex, that's YOUR problem, and it should be discussed. I agree with a lot of the other people that posted that the red flags that you wrote about are really more "pet peeves" then anything else. You come off as a spoiled brat with a huge sense of entitlement. Lucky for you, there's another bimbo just around the corner for you to pick apart! I think I'll check out the "Don't date him girl" site to see how many times you've been listed.

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secretdesires Single
Posted March 27, 2009

@ Shorty09 * sexy0021 * JRL3 & Mariam.. Thanks for your wise reply ;-)

Recently I stopped dating a girl because she was hurt by my sarcastic jokes and she could not accept them either.. I told her she must feel really bad and it never was my intension to hurt her. I also told her it makes me feel really bad knowing shes hurt. Thats why I apologized to her. If I knew she was this sensitive and did not like these kind of jokes, I would not have made them..

Anyway, now she does'nt want to give us a try which I can understand cause she's hurt.. But as JRL3 says it takes a little give and take etc etc

Its still weird to know she still visits my myspace and becomes jealous of other girls that talk to me haha.. Well, there are enough fish in the sea and Im not going to force her to make up with me.. So maybe this is her Red Flag for me.. She's been hurt to often by other guys and runs for the hills at the "slightest" annoyance or discomford...

Maybe she can't make a compromise.
To bad because compromises can make two people grow with love and mutual respect toward one another...

Thanks Guys Yall Are Very Helpful..

God Bless

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Posted March 27, 2009

I was expecting something totally different from this article. All these so-called "Red -flags” are nothing but personal dislikes. It takes a while for kids to open up to mommies "new friend"; sorry that’s just how it is. Everything this author said could be rightly justified in some way. Red Flags is when a man/women become to possessive, calling you every second. A Red flag is when they treat your parents disrespectfully on purpose. I feel as if this article was nothing more than personal pet peeves. Next time I advise you to make an article that is actually helpful and transcends culture, ethnicity act.
--Also very distasteful talking about "Bad sex", have some decency will you?

A little tip for you; start looking at some ones heart and mind first. Talk to them for a couple months before taking it to the sheets on date number 4. REDFLAG! Really get to know the person and only talk to them for martial reasons. I mean don’t try to hook up someone just because there “hot” Once again TOTAL REDFLAG. You should talk to a person for a real reason for friendship and martial relations. Maybe when you start taking someone seriously they’ll start taking you seriously. Just a personal thought….

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Posted March 26, 2009

Another red flag.... someone writes well over 1000 words and does not use a single paragraph!!!

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INOSH Taken
Posted March 27, 2009

I know! I couldn't even finish the whole article, I kept getting lost! and talk about run-on sentences.

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Shorty09 Complicated
Posted February 5, 2009

That was all that you saw in her? Was her hotness? Jeez, guys these days need to think about alot of things now a days. Before a guy would date a girl if he liked her personality and not just her looks. But n-e ways, you need to learn how to accept a lose when a red flag comes up. Don't keep on seeing her if you know that the only thing that you like about her is her looks.

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sexy0021 Single LOYAL-NaUgHtY -NiCe- Endurance
Posted January 25, 2009

Red Flag 2 me would be someone who publishes an article such as this. Opinions are great but sometimes they are better kept to one's self. Everyone is different and we all need to learn from our own experiences. Generalizations are weak, cruel and prejudice.
I hope this author spends the same amount of time analyzing his own weaknesses and lifestyle as he does in perspective partners! He began with a comment about D's parenting skills but I lost all respect when I read the Ketchup on Eggs comment then the Bad Sex comment. Maybe you might acknowledge that it takes TWO to have poor sex and maybe she is red-flagging YOU on another site or blog. I would love to read that one.
Number One on that list would invitably the Unwillingness to work at and developed a healthy relationship.
Number Two may be poor communication skills- he never communicated to me what bothered him or how we may improve our partnership- he just would stare at me awkwardly when I ate my breakfast.
Number Three may be Poor Sex- the first time was awkward for both of us but the next 4-5 times he just lied there like a dead fish and expected me to pleasure him- Hell he wouldn"t even tell me what he preferred and then embarassed me by writing and tellin others I was bad in bed.
The list goes on my friend- My point is we all perceive things differently and our levels of sensitivity to various scenarios differ. Let us be our own judge and experience it first-hand.
Some of us are more willing to work at building and enhancing a healthy relationship and have better communication skills. Those who criticize, over-analyze others behaviors, wave red flags for others to see,and are quick to transfer blame on a broken relationship- IN MY OPINION- should look in the mirror first before pulling out a pen and paper or laptop.
I was actually told that a red flag was marrying another ethnicity- I married my recently ex-wife who is Asian (Guyanese) and enjoyed 6 awesome children and 22 years together. So to me, red flags from others I find offensive and selfish in many ways.
I put Tobasco sauce on my eggs by the way- is that a red flag for you or will you classify that as a RED-HOT flag?????????????????????

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JRL3 Taken
Posted January 13, 2009
smart talk comment

These are all redflags in the opinion and viewpoint of one person. Everyone is different and everyone has different expectations and quirks. Any of these issues can be overcome with trust,patience and hardwork. If whoever you're with is worth sticking it out to you then stick it out by all means. Help them change and improve and if they don't then let them go. Look at someone for what they can be not for what they are at that moment or that first impression. I have a bad habit of looking angry when I'm not so alot of first impressions for me don't go so well but then people find out that I'm a nice and laidback person and the expressionless look on my face is probably becuase I'm in deep thought becuase I tend to ponder aimlessly quite often. Take all these articles on this site and any site or magazine with a grain of salt. Take what you need and leave the rest. No one is perfect and love or what you may call love shouldn't revolve around looks and sex alone. If you wanna say yeah whatever to that well go ahead and spend the rest of your life running from relationship to relationship. It's a two-way street, give and take. It takes a little sacrifice and accepting someones flaws becuase you care and love that person. If u wanna play by all means be a player if u don't then don't there is no in between. We all have quirks it's what makes us unique. I think the fact that my gf is a vegetarian is cool becuase it has opened my mind to healthy eating and it makes me wanna better myself. Is a woman being extremely picky at restaurants because she wants a vegetarian dish a redflag? No it just takes a little getting used to(I still eat meat in front of her and she accepts that).

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Posted July 20, 2009

True, that no one is perfect and love shouldn't revolve around looks ana sex alone. I must say though that looks is how we get attracted at first...the rest is we need to find or work it out. As I have always say to my ex, sex is not the be all and the end all of the relationship. Sex does play an important role in every relationship but there are other things that relationship can grow. Unfortunately, my ex does not see it that way. I tried so hard to make things better, work out our relationship, gave everything and do anything for him and forgot that it should be a two-way relationship. It should be a give & take...but I did it by myself hoping that he'll come around, that he'll change, that he'll see and realize how much I care and love him...it's all about him and I forgot about myself. We were together for 5 long years, it's a struggle on my part. I was the one who keep holding on, the relationship is not honest, it's full of lies and cheating but I ignored all of these "red flags" hoping for a change ... he dumped me over the phone for a younger woman, I was caught offguard because everything is alright, I didn't know that he is already dating behimd my back. It was so painful and horrible, can't believe he can do this to me after all the goodness, care, love, respect, financial support, he treated me like a piece of s**t. I am still in pain, feel so horrible. Now, I am scared that my life ends. I wasted 5 years of my life...it's so painful

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Posted May 13, 2008

Ray Cougar, you are my new hero.

I can't believe whoever it was that claimed these comments were more interesting than the article. Frrel? At least the article tried to keep it light. All I'm seeing here is high school monkey babble. Anyone read the introduction?

As for you, single, divorced man with children who wrote this piece... I applaud you for learning your own likes, dislikes, and red flags. They are different for each of us. The point is that we figure out the banners of those intolerable attributes/behaviors/psychoses and stop acting like they won't return later on as the unrelenting pain in our a**es.

Personally, I'm with you on more than half of the dirty dozen. Esp freak lady with the cigar and pizza. Ew.

It appears that you desire someone with a dependable sense of reason, someone who is emotionally grounded, genuinely considerate, responsible, and fun. Good luck to you and the rest of us. Especially me, as I I'm running late to yet another appointment.... ;)

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Posted May 17, 2008

I eat my scrambled eggs with ketchup thank you very much! And I make an excellent girlfriend too! Of course everyone has bad past relationship experiences- that's why they are in THE PAST and the person is now dating again! This article is stupid and very UN-revelational. Two thumbs DOWN.

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Posted April 21, 2008

red flag? We stopped sleeping together, and then she blamed my snoring on moving into the spare room to sleep- my fault I just could not get horny anymore with her after she accused me of treating her like a "mother" well maybe she was right she was 4 years older- and I did become way too dependant on her- but now I get a fresh piece 2 times a month- I know thats sad but it does me good enough, if I could afford more I would have it 2 times a week. But the sex is sensational with a fresh piece evrytime!

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Posted April 21, 2008

Scary divorce stories. Hmmm.

What if all I do is tell the truth? I have been married twice, and both times my wife brought home an STD. The first marriage was a year, the second for ten years. I have had no contact with the first, but I have a lot of contact with the second as she is the mother of my children.

I don't tell most people about my last ex-wife's infidelities or the STD. I divorced her because she wouldn't stop seeing other men. It was her third marriage. She is now on her fourth.

I don't know if this is a scary divorce story or not.

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Posted March 26, 2008

oh my god im undateable as are most people i know. i have a small dog i do comfort, i do have past romantic experiences that have upset me. i like for a guy to pay most of the time. my parents do matter to me. i speak back to rude service people. the only thing i don't do are have bad sex or dirty socks and underwear. oh and i don't have kids and dont like ketchup on eggs but think this is a regional / cultural thing - not even a class issue. this guy seems to want a really bland milquetoast edgeless mannequin. why is he allowed to write for vanity fair - or for you for that matter? this is ridiculous. i agree with mika. this guy is an idiot. its so easy to be clever or accurate with this kind of article topic. hire me next time.

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Posted March 8, 2008

I happen to like the taste of ketchup on eggs, or salsa ... if they're scrambled, that is. I guess Mr. Shnayerson would never consider ne as a worthwhile person to know, but perhaps he should consider that most people learn to like stuff like that when young. At least I don't put it on steaks. :-D

Now THAT would be gross.

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Posted January 24, 2008
smart talk comment

Ketchup on eggs is a problem?
You, sir, are obviously not from Pittsburgh.

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Posted January 30, 2008

i looooooooooooooooooove Ketchup on eggs.

We are not a match. DEFINITELY

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Posted January 17, 2008

I can't believe no one has mentioned this one, but I think that you're making a big mistake ruling out angry chicks. Hello. Ever heard of hate sex? Sure, the relationship is over as soon as you think about what things will be like in 20 years, but it was probably a good, crazy ride.

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Posted January 16, 2008
smart talk comment

Red Flag addendum:
1) Ketchup on eggs is fine. Ketchup on ice cream is an abomination. Run for the hills.
2) Your date's young boy slamming action figures together with an angry, curled lip is slightly tolerable. When your date's kid slams two pieces of his own feces together, curled lip and all, make a b-line for the door.
3) Snuffing out a smoke in a piece of pizza crust is a sign of low-class. But when she snuffs a smoke out on her forearm, she might be a rockstar... with an STD.
4) If she passes audible gas at the dinner table, but follows it up with, "Woah, did you see that squirrel on the skateboard?", you've got yourself a keeper.
5) If she reads Perez Hilton, and takes offense when you call him a no talent hack, she's no good.
6) If she conflates your disdain for the Today Show with being a male chauvinist, show her the door.
7) If he doesn't vehemently reject the idea of seeing the latest Diane Keaton movie on Friday night of the opening weekend, he's gay. Total dealbreaker.
8) If he believes "I Want it That Way" by Backstreet Boys is the best-produced pop song of the late 90s... dealbreaker.
9) If he or she ever uses the phrase "I'm kind of a big deal," tell them the deal is done because, "it is what it is".
10) If she can't articulate her dislike for Hillary Clinton beyond regurgitated talking points from pundits? Done.
11) If she's voting for Barack Obama because she thinks he's cute? Revoke her voter registration card and show her the door.
12) If she pays $200 for a haircut and her hair doesn't look any different than it did when you last saw her? Throw a sawbuck on the table and hightail it out of the restaurant.

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Posted February 12, 2008

Thirteenth red flag: a******s named Shnayerson.

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Posted January 17, 2008

I'm with you on the ketchup 'n eggs thing. Yecchh.

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Posted January 2, 2008

Really? Do people take this seriously?

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Posted January 4, 2008
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dear michael,

(1) how long was your longest relationship? are you currently in one? (2) ketchup on eggs is a personal preference much like putting salt or pepper on any food. (3) its 2008, with a divorce rate of 50%, its ridiculous to assume that single people today wont have issues with their parents or (re: women who haven't had relationships over 3 months) that women may have commitment issues. what you fail to realize is that both women (and for the sake of staying positive) and men are just looking for a person who will accept and love each for who we are, and who we want to become. if your happy with yourself, than you can overlook someones imperfections, encourage them to give up their bad habits, and support your partner with love. if you need an ego boost, id be happy to give you a pep talk... as long as its unrelated to your abilities as a romance columnist.

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Posted December 27, 2007

yo i stopped reading after you nixed ketchup on eggs. there is nothing better than scrambled eggs with a pool of ketchup to dip them in. and for that matter, ketchup is also especially delicious with hash browns and home fries. mmmmmmmm ketchup.

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Posted December 28, 2007

i take great offense with the egg/ketchup point... what about the rancheros for brunch, or the cubed tomatoes and cheddar omelet, and the Tabasco sprinkle on your scrambbled... all these are perfectly acceptable, why should ketchup and eggs be any different?

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Posted December 29, 2007

I love ketchup on eggs with hash browns all smooshed together and really, seriously hate both my parents. No wonder I elected to stop dating 8 years ago. It's not them, it's me! (lol, I wish the writer a lot of luck because all relationships are a nightmare. The ones that "work" are where one person is willing to suck it up in spite of being miserable because of their fear of being alone.)

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Posted January 28, 2008

This advice is proof that any idiot can call themselves an expert and write bogus advice on the internet that unsuspecting rubes will take as gospel truth. Ketchup on eggs is a regional taste. It is very common in NYC, where if you ask for an egg sandwich, the customary question is "do you want salt, pepper and ketchup on that?" I suppose all of us Easterners who like ketchup on eggs are weird then? That just goes to show you the quality of this kind of advice. This guy has obviously not lived enough to know about regional tastes in food much less does he know anything about giving out dating advice! My advice to him is grow up first and get some life experience before spewing your personal preferences as so-called "red flags". And yes, I am 50 years old, have a ton of dating experience AND a PhD in Psychology to back up that comment. And in case you're wondering, I'm married and in a stable relationship with a wonderful man. But I didn't meet him listening to stupid advice like this!

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Posted January 28, 2008

Here's another thought - How about huevos rancheros? Eggs smothered in salsa. How come that isn't a red flag? I can see why so many people took offense at your comment. This preference is not about class but about regional tastes. But I think you made it about what you see as low class. You're a closet food snob. I think that's a worse red flag than any condiment one could ever put on an egg. It's no wonder you have 30 years of dating experience. What does that say about YOU? That's a major red flag right there, LOL. Run for the hills, ladies!!

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Posted February 18, 2008
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I'm a middle aged woman, raised in the northeast, and I "get" the turnoff re ketchup on eggs. Huevos rancheros? Green light. For many, ketchup is a flavor squelcher. I am into trying new foods (not wildly risky but I definately get bored with same ole, same ole) and my experience is that ketchup on eggs and steak is someone who isn't particularly into a variety of flavors. Now the 10 minute late rule? From a guy dating women from NYC? No wonder he's still single. In my case, I habitually run late. It has nothing to do with my feelings for the man. You might abhor tardiness, fine, but don't assume it means I'm not interested. It might mean I'm so interested that I take extra care. I've been happily married 20 yrs to a man who is chronically early. It works. We bring each other to the middle.

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Posted February 16, 2008

This whole ketchup on eggs thing...c'mon. This article has a certain - how you say? - tongue in cheek tone to it, particularly the ketchup on eggs "flag." My god, who knew people were so passionate about a breakfast food. Or maybe, considering how emotional people have gotten over a little thing like this - maybe this should be another red flag added to the list: "anyone who gets upset about someone else's red flags about eggs should be a red flag." I've added it to my list.

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Posted November 29, 1999

Children, children, children! I thought this was an adult-based rating! Who cares about ketchup & eggs? Obviously the cigerette-dashing date (and yes, I smoke) had no respect for her date OR herself by acting like a pouting,rebellious teen....and she's old enough to stop blameing it on the parents! (I assume she has a mind of her own....!!??!!)

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Posted November 29, 1999

I loved it...and enjoyed the comments... from all the ketchup lovers LOL

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Posted November 29, 1999

I read this once before on Yahoo personals and I still feel the same way, it's an excellent article. It's really for folks who are picky, it's all about truthful about what you want. Think about each piece and relate it to some personal experience you may have had. The flags are there we just refuse to acknowledge them.

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Posted November 29, 1999

the ketchup thing doesn't have to be taken seriously. The whole article's kindof tongue-in-cheek; it's fun, but you can't take it at face value + word4word

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Posted November 29, 1999

article had some good stuff but too much fluff (i.e. the ketchup). I agree about the pet one, especially when they show up in the bed at the worst time. That he asked the woman with the demon children for a 3rd date is appalling. That's too much work for sex, buddy! He could've gone into greater depth on the "anger hum" as some people can be very nice one minute and then turn ugly really quickly. Think the writer is a lazy hamptonite who needs to get off his ass and dig deeper.

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Posted November 29, 1999

There is something to be said for sharing basic food preferences. Among my red flags are: a man who refers to himself as a "free spirit", a man who asks for a ride on the first date, and anyone who does not take pride in the work he does.

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Posted November 29, 1999

I found the comments more interesting and entertaining than the article.

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Posted November 29, 1999

What happened to food etiquette? Why do you think there is something wrong with it? There are certain times when you should practice a little class, and NOT put catsup on anything whilst dining in a fine establishment. To do so screams "I am trailer trash" to the world! Now, if you don't care that youare blatantly screaming your lack of food etiquette to all the world, go fot it! Be yourself! Hell, while your'e at it, write comments about this topic, in caps, and misspell as many words as only you know how! Can't wait to see the responses to this one.

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Posted June 30, 2009

The author never said that they were in a "fine establishment." What he did say is that it is always wrong and nothing good can come from it. To me, he is majoring on a minor. If someone likes ketchup (or catsup for those of you pretending to be 'refined') it's their choice to eat it. If you judge them for it, then you're the one with the problem!

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Posted November 29, 1999

Alright... I find the 'ketchup on eggs' comment, along with most other readers, to be totally ridiculous. You have overshadowed what good, serious information that can be taken from this article by revealing yourself to be a shallow, flaky individual who could be the source of the "13th Red Flag.. Beware of guys who judge you by what kind of food you eat!" What a goof!

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Posted November 29, 1999

This is a light-hearted, yet informative article. Not bad, some good advice in there. But even better are the vitriol-soaked comments from (Let me guess..) angry women that feel entitled to behave as less than adults- yet have the clarity to criticize. Write your own articles if you don't like it, instead of moping about how "Men suck", lard-ass.

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Posted November 29, 1999

Every person is different. Every date is different. Every list of red flags therefore is different. We are all different from everyone out there. Each of us needs to formulate our own list of 12 red flags and carry that list with us. My list is too far big to carry with me. From the "blind butcher" to the guy who paid for the lunch with a "gift card", we all have our own experiences. Carry an open mind (to watch for those red flags); but more importantly, carry an open heart (don't fall in love in the first date, but learn from it afterwards).

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Posted November 29, 1999

I think this whole magazine or whatever it is is ridiculous and creates drama for men to be the victims in relationships. Get over it, stop being so lazy expecting women to do everything for your lazy asses. Show up for your girlfirends and wives and stretch yourselves to be full partners and men. That is what I call a REAL MAN. These kinds of scenarios you report about are smokescreens to the real issues that men want to be coddled and that is crap because women want that too. you men should be ashamed of yourselves for saying you are such great catches yet you are so superficial.

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Posted November 29, 1999

Yeah, you have got to be the most shallow man on earth if you can't handle a girl that takes ketchup on her eggs....I would never judge a guy based on what he eats. I find caviar disgusting, but if he wants to eat it, more power to him...however, if he wants to kiss me after, he will need to brush up. But this says NOTHING about who he is. What the hell?! This author is a total imbecile!

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Posted November 29, 1999
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I believe the author is trying to convey the message that we as singles should not put our blinders on in the search for Mr. or Ms. Right. I think we put the desire of finding someone ahead of finding the right someone, and in the long run it does neither party any good.

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Posted November 29, 1999

A generally good article, but the ketchup comment was useless, and I don't think that a 35 year-old who hasn't had a long-term relationship is necessarily a red flag---did it occur to you that some have not had LTR precisely because they don't bother to stick around to work on red flags? Its better to be single and free than attached and miserable. My grandfather always said that if you're constantly trying to force a relationship to work, then you should let it go, it just isn't going to work. Life is short, and we only get one, so why not enjoy it with suitable people without waiting on "the one?" I've never had a LTR, and I am completely content being single and free---if I encounter someone suitable, then I'll date...until then, I'm having FUN!

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Posted November 29, 1999

I think this article is SO-SO. Some of it is just silly and way too narrowed down to be good advice. I don't mind the sense of humor, but I wasn't really looking for it when I saw this article. I was looking for some serious red flags. So next time, make it clear which mood you're really going to give to us.

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Posted November 29, 1999

I think this entire article is a joke. I have been married for almost 40 years and I can tell you, people change on a daily basis. The problem today is no wants to work at a relationship. Its to easy to walk away. Your first red flag should be for yourself. If you not mature enough to work at life daily then you should be alone and not get other people involved in your problems. Beleive me it changes on a daily, sometimes hourly, basis and its always different. You have to beleive in yourself before you can beleive in others. If I had read this article 40 years ago I might still be singel today.

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Posted November 29, 1999

If you don't have enough experience to compare good and bad sexuality, you aren't ready to marry.

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Posted November 29, 1999
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Good ideas, a little hard to sort out the humorous from the serious. This subject needs to be better explored. I married a control freak and spent 33 years till the kids were grown regretting my rash decision. All the signs were there, but I wasn't thinking about red flags. To avoid my painful experience, read a lot of this sort of artical, introspect your own needs, and talk about your partner's expectations and values. How important is sex, how should kids be disciplined, with who's family will you spend the holidays, is it the man's responsibility to produce the income, where will you live and how will you decorate the house, how much socializing will you do separately and together, . Incompatibiliy in areas such as these should be reconciled before it's too late to change your mind, and lowering your standards or expecting basic needs will change or become less important, in order to marry sooner, is a big mistake.

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Posted November 29, 1999

I love catsup with my eggs. And with lots of other foods. I think "weird obsessions with things that mean nothing like someone who is a certain astrological sign, or someone who likes interesting food combinations like catsup and eggs" - is a RED FLAG.